Wednesday, December 05, 2007

Another "Solid" IPO In China.......

I think this kind of number is called "solid" in China.......

Das nennt man nach chinesischen Maßstäben wohl "solide".....

China Shipping Stock Sale Oversubscribed, People Say
Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- China Shipping Container Lines Co., Asia's second-largest container line, attracted 2.6 trillion yuan ($351 billion) worth of orders for its Shanghai stock sale, said three people familiar with the offering.

The Shanghai-based shipping line has said it aims to sell as much as 15.5 billion yuan in stock. The people asked not to be identified before an official announcement.

The sale drew bids for about 170 times the stock on offer, as demand for new shares withstands the worst monthly fall in Shanghai's stock market in at least 12 years. The proceeds will help China Shipping expand its fleet and add routes to compete with larger rival China Cosco Holdings Ltd.

``In the current volatile market, investors prefer new share sales as they are seen as less risky,'' said Roslyn Ji, an analyst at Core Pacific-Yamaichi International Ltd. in Hong Kong.

``Large companies named after `China' are particularly favored.''

China Railway Group Ltd., Asia's biggest construction company, drew 150 times the stock on offer for its 22.4 billion yuan Shanghai share sale last month. PetroChina Co.'s October sale had $441 billion of bids, or about 50 times the stock on offer. The company became the world's largest by market capitalization after the sale.

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Sunday, November 04, 2007

PetroChina's Value Tops $1 Trillion, Surpassing Exxon

"Froth" is probably the understatement of the week..... This frozen proposal isn´t also helpful to ease the liquidity pressure....

Überhitzung ist wohl inzwischen eine mehr als deutliche Untertreibung....... Diese zurückgenommene Verfügung trägt ebenfall nicht geradezu bei den Liquiditätsdruck zu mindern.....

Thanks to Bespoke

PetroChina's Value Tops $1 Trillion, Surpassing Exxon Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- PetroChina Co. surged past Exxon Mobil Corp. to become the world's first $1 trillion company as investors in China started trading the stock.

PetroChina's Class-A shares almost tripled on their Shanghai debut today, valuing the Beijing-based state-owned oil company at as much as $1.1 trillion, more than Exxon and General Electrical Co. combined.

But beware the big numbers / FT

The mainland A-share float has a free float of about 2 per cent - and such a thin float makes market price a poor guide to intrinsic value. Add to that inbuilt squeeze the weight of institutional money trying to get into the mainland’s largest ever listing, and the tendency to price offerings in China at well below the price that local investors are willing to pay. A huge first day pop was a virtual certainty.

The rally makes PetroChina shares four times more expensive relative to earnings than those of Exxon, whose sales are almost four times higher. China's entire stock market was valued at less than $1.1 trillion before tripling this year and giving the communist nation five of the world's 10 biggest companies.


`A-share prices don't reflect global benchmarks of value,'' said Lorraine Tan, head of equity research at Standard & Poor's Investment Services in Singapore. ``There should be other measures of a company's position, including revenue and profitability. Market cap is not necessarily accurate.''

PetroChina rose as high as 48.62 yuan from the sale price of 16.7 yuan and traded at 42.19 yuan at 1:14 p.m. in Shanghai, giving it a market value of $964 billion, or 55 times earnings.

In Hong Kong, PetroChina fell 6.6 percent to HK$18.30. Exxon is worth $488 billion on the New York Stock Exchange and trades at 13 times earnings.

China's largest oil and gas producer had 20.5 billion barrels of oil and gas reserves in 2006, compared with 22.1 billion for Irving, Texas-based Exxon, data compiled by Bloomberg show. PetroChina has been adding new reserves at an average annual rate of 5 percent for the past three years, a faster pace than Exxon, Royal Dutch Shell Plc and BP Plc, the world's largest oil companies by sales.

The share sale, the world's biggest this year, surpassed the 66.6 billion yuan raised by China Shenhua Energy Co. in September. PetroChina raised 66.8 billion yuan selling 4 billion shares last week as investors applied for more than 3.3 trillion yuan of stock, almost 50 times the amount PetroChina sold.

Record Oil
Those investors were until now prevented from directly buying PetroChina stock, missing out on a 15-fold surge as economic growth turned the nation into the largest oil consumer after the U.S. and as crude prices reached a record $96.24 a barrel in New York.


The CSI 300 Index of shares listed on the Shanghai and Shenzhen exchanges has increased about 170 percent this year as mainland Chinese investors seek returns on $2.3 trillion of savings, raising investor concerns that the market is too expensive.

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. sold its stake in PetroChina this year, reaping an eightfold gain that contributed to a 64 percent increase in third-quarter profit for the Omaha-based company. Berkshire had 2.34 billion shares as of the end of 2006, the largest holding after state-owned China National Petroleum Corp.

Buffett said on Oct. 24 that Chinese share prices have risen too fast.

Gains in PetroChina's shares in Shanghai may have more to do with Chinese investors seeking better returns than the outlook for the company's exploration and production operations, or its refining business, known as downstream, said Larry Grace, an oil analyst at Kim Eng Securities Co. in Hong Kong.

``Production is static with limited upside for the next three to four years,'' Grace said. ``As for the downstream, the price controls and overall regulatory trend limit the company's earnings.''

China controls fuel prices to shield consumers in the world's most-populous nation from accelerating inflation. The policy limits the ability of PetroChina and China Petroleum & Chemical Corp. to pass on the burden of higher crude oil costs.
The other Chinese companies that rank among the world's 10 largest by market value are China Petroleum, known as Sinopec, China Mobile Ltd., Industrial & Commercial Bank of China Ltd. and China Construction Bank Corp.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Jim Rogers Shifts All Assets Out of Dollar to Buy Yuan

I´m not sure if the Chinese are happy with comments like this...... But there is little doubt that the Yuan is significantly undervalued. I recommend to visit Brad Setser´s Blog to read more about this topic. Lets be clear a rise of the Yuan will change the landscape for lots of regions and will have big implications for all asset classes for years to come. In the meantime the Chinese have to deal with lots of hot money that is chasing Chinese assets.

Ich kann mir vorstellen das die chinesischen Offiziellen solche Kommenate nicht gerne hören.... Aber es besteht kaum ein Zweifel das der Yuan deutlich unterbewertet ist. Mehr Expertise zu diesem Thema gibt es regelmäßig auf Brad Setser´s Blog. Ein schneller Anstieg dürfte zu einigen Verwerfungen führen und dürfte kaum eine Region oder Anlageklasse unbeeindruckt lassen. In der Zwischenzeit müssen die Chinesen damit leben das eine Menge "Hot Money" chinesche Vermögenswerte regelrecht jagt .

Jim Rogers Shifts Assets Out of Dollar to Buy Yuan Oct. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Jim Rogers, chairman of Beeland Interests Inc., said he is shifting all his assets out of the dollar and buying Chinese yuan because the Federal Reserve has eroded the value of the U.S. currency.

``I'm in the process of -- I hope in the next few months -- getting all of my assets out of U.S. dollars,'' said Rogers, 65, who correctly predicted the commodities rally in 1999. ``I'm that pessimistic about what's happening in the U.S.''

Rogers, delivering a presentation late yesterday at an investors' meeting organized by ABN Amro Markets in Amsterdam, said he expects the Chinese currency to quadruple in the next decade and that he is holding on to commodities such as platinum, gold, silver and palladium.

The dollar has dropped against all the 16 most actively traded currencies except the Mexican peso this year as slowing growth and the first interest-rate reduction since 2003 last month dimmed the allure of dollar-denominated assets.

Since the Fed lowered U.S. interest rates on Sept. 18, the first cut in four years, the dollar has fallen 2.8 percent against the euro and touched a record low yesterday. Gold rose to a 27-year high and platinum jumped to a record.

``It's the official policy of the central bank and the U.S. to debase the currency,'' said Rogers, a former partner of George Soros.

Reserve Currency
``The U.S. dollar is and has been the world's reserve currency, the world's medium of exchange,'' he said. ``That's in the process of changing. The pound sterling, which used to be the world's reserve currency, lost 80 percent of its value, top to bottom, as it went through the whole period of losing its status as the world's reserve currency.''

The Chinese currency, known as the renminbi, or yuan, is ``the best currency to buy right now,'' Rogers said. ``I don't see how one can really lose on the renminbi in the next decade or so. It's gotta go. It's gotta triple. It's gotta quadruple.''

> Here is short term outlook from Morgans Stanley on this topic Fasten the Seatbelt

> Hier ein aktueller Kommentar von Morgan Stanley zu diesem Thema Fasten the Seatbelt

China has followed a gradualist approach. In 2006, the renminbi appreciated against the US dollar by 3.4% but against the currency basket (i.e., the NEER) by only about 0.8%. As of last Friday, the cumulative appreciation against the US dollar so far this year was 4%, but against the currency basket only about 1.4%

Since I expect the pace of renminbi appreciation against the US dollar to accelerate markedly for the remainder of the year, I endorse our FX strategy team’s forecast that the USD/CNY rate will reach 7.30 by end-December (see FX Impulse, October 18, 2007). This year-end target implies about 2.7% appreciation of the renminbi against the US dollar for the remainder of the year and slightly less than 7% for 2007 as a whole.

Despite this seemingly aggressive USD/CNY forecast, I estimate – based on our FX strategy team’s forecasts of the exchange rates for China’s major trading partners – the cumulative appreciation of renminbi NEER for 2007 will be only about 3.9%

The yuan strengthened past 7.5 to the dollar today for the first since the central bank ended a fixed exchange rate in July 2005. The currency has gained 10.5 percent since the dollar link was abandoned.

China, growing faster than any other major economy, is ``going to be the most important country in the 21st century,'' he said. China's gross domestic product expanded 11.9 percent in the second quarter, and analysts surveyed by Bloomberg estimate the economy grew by 11.5 percent in the three months to Sept. 30.

> I recommend to read Is the credit squeeze a prelude to a China crash? from John Plender via the FT. I suggest to read the entire link.

> Hier ein weniger bullische Meinung von John Plender Is the credit squeeze a prelude to a China crash? via der FT. Ich empfehle den kompletten Link zu lesen.
The backcloth has invariably been a shift in global power whereby the growth of an immature creditor country wedded to protectionist trade policy has contributed to imbalances of savings and investment. Attempts to manage the currency volatility arising from imbalances have derailed monetary policy and created bubbles in asset markets, leading to crashes and financial distress.

Rogers also is buying Swiss francs and Japanese yen, which he said have been ``pounded down'' because of the so-called carry trades.

Unwinding Carry Trades
In the carry trade, investors borrow in countries with low interest rates, such as Japan, and invest the proceeds where rates are higher. Japan's benchmark overnight lending rate is 0.5 percent, compared with 6.5 percent in Australia and 8.25 percent in New Zealand.

The carry trades in yen and francs will ``unwind someday,'' which will send the currencies ``straight up,'' Rogers said. ``I'm buying the yen.''

The bull markets in bonds and stocks are ``over,'' he said. ``Bonds will be a terrible place to be for many years and will in fact be going down for many years.''

Rogers said he remains bullish on commodities because ``that's where the big fortunes are going to be made in the world in the next five, or 10 or 15 years. The current bull market is going to last until sometime between 2014 and 2022.''

Commodity Prices
Commodity prices have surged as demand for raw materials, especially from China, rose faster than producers were able to increase output. Agricultural prices have led recent gains, including a record high for wheat last month and a three-year high in soybeans.

``The number of hectares devoted to wheat farming has been declining for 30 years, the inventory levels of food are at the lowest level since 1972,'' Rogers said. ``Suppose we start having droughts again. God knows how high the price of agriculture is going to go, so that's where I'm putting more of my money now than in other things.''

He added, ``I think I'm going to make more money in agriculture than I make in precious metals.''

Platinum, gold, silver and palladium will ``be much, much higher during the course of the bull market,'' he said.

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Monday, October 08, 2007

Coal.com ..... / China

Wow! Does anybody need another example that it is never about valuations and it´s all about liquidity. The longer this run continues and the real interest rate for deposits in China is negative the more unlikely the following outcome will be like this........

Was für Fakten! Hier wird einmal mehr bestätigt das es an den Märkte in den wenigsten Fällen um die Bewertung geht. Die Liquidität dominiert fast immer das Geschehen. Je länger dieser Lauf weitergeht und die Regierung immer noch negative Sparzinsen zuläßt desto unwahrscheinlicher wird wohl folgendes Motto.......

China Shenhua Energy Shares Surge in Shanghai Debut
Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- China Shenhua Energy Co., the nation's biggest coal producer, almost doubled on its first day of trading in Shanghai after investors applied for a record 2.66 trillion yuan ($354 billion) of stock.

Shenhua rose as much as 91 percent after the Beijing-based company raised 66.6 billion yuan in the world's biggest share sale this year. Investors ordered 40 times the stock on offer, drawn by first-day trading gains for Chinese companies that averaged 269 percent in the past three months.

The surge gives the coal producer a market capitalization of $173 billion, surpassing Cia. Vale do Rio Doce as the world's second-biggest mining company. Shenhua will use the proceeds to buy mines and expand output to meet demand in the world's fastest-growing major economy, where coal prices have jumped to a record.

Thanks to Bespoke

The Beijing-based company sold 66.6 billion yuan of shares at 36.99 yuan apiece, a 19 percent discount to the closing price of its Hong Kong-listed stock yesterday.

Debut Gains
Shenhua's Shanghai shares are trading at 65 times estimated earnings. China Coal Energy Co., the nation's second-biggest coal producer, is trading in Hong Kong at 52 times last year earnings. Shenhua's Hong Kong shares are trading at a ratio of 42, less than the 54 times average for China's CSI 300 Index, the world's best-performing this year.

Shenhua sold 1.8 billion yuan-denominated shares. The sale surpassed the $8 billion raised by Russia's VTB Group in May. The amount is also a record for a domestic stock offering, exceeding the 58 billion yuan raised by China Construction Bank. .....

China, the largest miner and consumer of coal, became a net importer of the fuel for the first time in January, ending centuries of self-sufficiency and boosting benchmark prices of the fuel at home and at Australia's Newcastle Port to records in August. China burns coal to generate 78 percent of its electricity.

>For a more bullish view on the Chinese Economy (not the stock market) read How fit is the panda? from the Economist. Once in a month i need to post something positive excluding gold....... :-)

> Für einen eher positiven Ausblick für China´s Wirtschaft (nicht den Aktienmarkt) empfiehlt sich How fit is the panda? vom Economist. Ich muß ja zumindest einmal monatlich etwas bullishes ausserhalb von Gold posten...... :-)

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Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Number Of The Day....China IPO´s

China.com.....? Click here for more posts on the most fascinating market and the often "stretched" valuations.......Would be interesting to know how much margin buying is goin on there........

China.com.....? Klickt bitte hier um mehr Details zu dem wohl momentan interessantesten Markt weltweit zu erhalten. Ich würde zu gerne wissen in welchem Maße kreditfinanzierte Aktienkäufe in China genutzt werden.


The last six IPOs in China surged by an average 250% on their first day of trading.
China Construction Bank, which has traded in Hong Kong since October 2005, rose as much as 40% on its first day of trading in Shanghai in the world’s second-largest share sale this year
The stock traded 34% higher by mid-morning at 8.67 yuan, giving the Beijing-based bank a value of $218bn. Chinese investors, undeterred by high valuations for traded companies, are clamoring for IPOs as returns on bank savings lag the nation’s inflation rate.
China Shenhua Energy Co., the nation's largest coal producer, attracted a record of more than 2.6 trillion yuan ($350 billion) in orders for its Shanghai share sale, said two people with direct knowledge of the transaction.
Shenhua drew 1.9 trillion yuan from institutional investors and more than 700 billion yuan from individuals seeking the stock, the people said, citing preliminary tallies and asking not to be identified before an official announcement. Beijing-based Shenhua will sell as many as 1.8 billion shares at between 34.99 yuan and 36.99 each, it said Sept. 23.
Chinese investors, undeterred by the world's highest valuations for traded companies, are rushing to buy into a stock market that has almost tripled in size this year as returns on bank savings lag behind inflation.
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007

Mainland China vs H Shares Hongkong

Time for another China update....... Fascinating!

Zeit für ein neuerliches China Update.......Faszinierend!

A few days ago the Chinese government has indicated that it will expand a program allowing its citizens to buy Hongkong-traded stocks directly to calm down the mainland stock market and ease the liquidity pressure that has driven stocks into the stratosphere.

So far the only thing that happened is that the Chinese shares that are listed in Honkong spiked and have closed a little bit of the gap (although, some shares jumped 70%). Needles to say that the stock market in Shanghai also climbed to multiple new highs. It will be key to watch if the gap in the future will be closed from the bottom (Hongkong 2008 PE 20 ) or from the top ( Mainland PE 40-50).

The longer the markets refuse to close the gap from the top the uglier the awakening should be.

> see also the chart "P/E Ratios: Nasdaq vs China"

Vor einigen Tagen haben die chinesischen Offiziellen durchblicken lassen das es zukünftig möglich sein wird auch chinesische Aktien in Hongkong ohne größere Einschränkungen zu erwerben. Dieser Schritt soll etwas den Druck von den heimischen Aktienmärkten nehmen und die Liquidität etwas breiter streuen.

Bisher hat diese Maßnahme in erster Linie dazu geführt das die chinesischen Aktien die in Hong Kong gelistet sind einen kleinen Teil der Lücke von unten geschlossen haben (obwohl einzelne Aktien über 70% explodiert sind). Überflüssig zu erwähnen das der Index in Shanghai munter weiter neue Hochs markiert hat. Es wird spannend zu sehen sein von welchsem Ende die zukünftige Bewertungslücke geschlossen werden wird. Momentan notieren die China/Hong Kong Aktien mit einem 08 er KGV von rund 20 während die Festlandaktien noch immer mit einem atemberaubenden KGV von 40-50 allen die Show stehlen.

Je länger die Anpassung von oben aufgeschoben wird desto ungemütlicher dürfte das erwachen sein.

> The table shows the run druing the last 5 days and ytd, estimated pe 2008 H shares Hongkong and mainland China, the "theoretical valuation gap", marketcap

Here another example that shows how different the two chinese markets act.

Hier ein weiteres Beispiel das anschaulich zeigt wie verschieden die zwei chinesischen Märkte zur Zeit noch reagieren.

The Financial Times is asking What’s the real Bank of China price?

On Thursday, Bank of China fessed up to holding just under $10bn in US subprime paper and CDOs. While its ‘H’ shares fell more than 6 per cent in Hong Kong in response, the reaction of investors in Shanghai was to push the price of the ‘A’shares up 1.3 per cent.

The gap between Bank of China’s mainland and HK prices has been widening for nine months now. This week the average premium of A shares over H generally widened to 70 per cent for the first time - and that is in response to Monday’s news that China intends to let its residents buy overseas stock (such as H shares)!

> But this is what happens when the central bank is offering deposit rates that are lower than the inflation rate...

> Aber das sollte nicht weiter verwundern wenn die Notenbank den Einlagenzinssatz unterhalb der Inflation festsetzt......
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Thursday, August 23, 2007

P/E Ratios: Nasdaq vs China / Bespoke

It´s all about liquidity........We can see the opposite effect from liquidity in the worldwide credit markets.

And it doesn´t help when the central bank is offering deposit rates that are lower than the inflation rate..... At least they try to ease the pressure and now want to open the gates to investments in Hong Kong.

Liquidität, Liquidität, Liquidität......Wir alle können momentan an den weltweiten Kreditmärkten sehr schön sehen wie das Gegenteil von zuvile Liquidität aussieht.

Und es auch nicht gerade nachteilig wenn die Notenbank den Einlagenzinssatz unterhalb der Inflation festsetzt.....Immerhin wird jetzt versucht einen Teil der Liquidität nach Hong Kong umzuleiten .

> Just to clarify : a red quote in China represents rising prices.

> Nur zur Klarstellung : Rote Symbole stehen in China für steigende Kurse

In the past we have made comparisons between the p/e ratios of the Nasdaq Composite and China's Shanghai Composite. Up until mid-July when US equity markets peaked, the price to earnings ratios on the two indices were very similar, and the argument could be made that even though China's stock market was rapidly increasing, its valuation - while high - was still inline the Nasdaq's.

Since mid-July, however, the two p/e ratios have diverged dramatically as the prices on the two indices have moved in opposite directions. The trailing 12-month p/e ratio on the Nasdaq is now 35.88 while the p/e on the Shanghai Composite is now 49.57.

> But probably still better value than a Washington Mutual with a forward p/e ratio of 10.... :-)

> Wahrscheinlich sind selbst diese Aktien noch immer werthaltiger und günstiger als Washington Mutual die ein 2008 KGV von 10 aufweist.... :-)
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Wednesday, August 08, 2007

China's Shanghai Composite ends at record high

China has reached another high. One example more that shows that valuations doesn´t matter ( see China at 45 Times Earnings Fed by `Herd Mentality,' Government , What Bubble? China's Analysts More Bullish Than Ever , How Overvalued Is China ?). It´s all about liquidity. This happened a little bit under the radar of the credit freeze in the US and some parts of the western world. One could get the feeling that China acts as some kind of safe haven....

The decoupling since the credit news is hitting the front pages is remarkable. And the Yuan that will gain doesn´t hurt either..... Wont´surprise me if we hear something from the exchange rate front very soon......

Shanghai vs S&P 500

China hat heute mal wieder ein neues Hoch erklommen. Das Beispiel zeigt das Bewertungen im Prinzip nicht weiter relevant sind (siehe China at 45 Times Earnings Fed by `Herd Mentality,' Government , What Bubble? China's Analysts More Bullish Than Ever , How Overvalued Is China ?) . Es geht einzig und allein um die Liquidität. Die Bewegung in China hat aufgrund der Tumulte vorwiegend am US Kreditmarkt nur wenig Beachtung gefunden. Man könnte fast glauben das China von einigen als eine Art sichere Hafen angesehen wird....

Die Abkoppelung ist in der Tat bemerkenswert. Auch nicht sonderlich nachteilig dürfte der Fakt sein das man wohl zu fast 100% davon ausgehen kann das der zukünftig Yuan massiv an Wert zulegen wird. Würde mich nicht wundern wenn wir bald neues aus dieser Richtung hören werden.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Peter Shiff on Bloomberg about China´s Stock Market

this interview was shot yesterday before the 7% plunge just after the Chinese announced the trading tax increase.... the interview is more about the yuan and how the $ is toast... nice rant...click on the headline to start the interview


dieses interview ist von gestern bevor der aktienmarkt 7% verloren hat und nachdem die chinesen die erhöhung der steuern bei aktiengeschäften angekündigt haben...es geht in dem interview mehr um den yuan und warum der us $ wohl weiter probleme haben wird....klickt bitte auf die überschrift um das interview zu starten

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Monday, May 28, 2007

China climbing to new highs / party on......

another day another record...... this performance reminds me more and more of the final stages of the nasdaq bubble..... i never could imagine that i would witness such an effort twice within 8 years....fascinating times.... and i´m proud that i havn´t tried to short this madness......thanks in part to the limited products available :-)

jeder tag ein neuer meilenstein....diese entwicklung erinnert mich immer mehr an die letzten zuckungen des nasdag 1999/2000...ich hätte mir nicht träumen lassen das ich etwas ähnlichens binnen 8 jahren ein zweites mal erleben kann.....ist an spannung kaum zu überbieten....bin ehrlich stolz das ich noch nicht der versuchung erlegen bin hier was auf der short seite zu probieren.....hängt wohl auch mit der schwierigkeit zusammen das die produkmöglichkeit hier noch sehr eingeschränkt sind :-)



May 28 (Bloomberg) -- China's CSI 300 Index rose above 4000 for the first time, driven by a surge in new investors who are ignoring warnings of a bubble to enter a market that's doubled this year.

China International Marine Containers Co. and Tsingtao Brewery Co. were among 11 stocks to rise by the 10 percent daily limit on the 298 member index. Jiangxi Copper Co. climbed after the price of the metal gained by the daily cap in Shanghai.

``There is lots of liquidity flowing into the market,'' said Fan Dizhao, who helps manage about $1.8 billion at Guotai Asset Management Co. in Shanghai. ``Even fund mangers dare not sell their shares at this stage, as no one knows when the rally will be over.''

The nation's Ministry of Education warned students not to get involved in stock trading because they may be unable to bear their losses if the investments turn sour, the official Xinhua News Agency reported today.

The benchmark CSI 300 climbed 87.33, or 2.2 percent, to 4072.58 at the close. Investors opened more than 300,000 accounts a day last week, even as former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan called the rally unsustainable and said the market may undergo a ``dramatic contraction''.

China Petroleum, Asia's biggest oil refiner, also known as Sinopec, jumped 0.67 yuan, or 5.4 percent, to 13.07. China International Marine, the world's largest maker of freight containers, gained 3.17 yuan, or 10 percent, to 34.82. Baoshan Iron & Steel Co., China's biggest steelmaker, climbed 0.42 yuan, or 3.3 percent, to 13.12.

New Accounts
Households are shifting funds into the stock market, seeking better returns than they can get on their bank deposits. The central bank's benchmark one-year deposit rate, a ceiling for deposit rates commercial banks can offer, is 3.06 percent, little more than the nation's 3 percent inflation rate. The CSI 300 has risen 206 percent in the past year.

nasdaq....

Investors opened 362,719 accounts at brokerages on May 24, the fifth straight day the tally has exceeded 300,000, according to figures on the China Depository & Clearing Corp.'s Web site. So far this year, 20.9 million accounts have been opened, four times the amount in 2006, the clearing house's data shows.

``This kind of bubble is not driven by fundamentals. It's driven by liquidity,'' said Agnes Deng, who helps manage $3.5 billion at Standard Life Investments Asia in Hong Kong.

>what a statement.........if it was driven by fundamentals it wouldn´t be a bubble.....

>was für eine aussage.....wenn etwas durch fundamentales gerechtfertigt ist kann es wohl kaum eine blase sein...

The CSI 300 is now valued at 46 times earnings, making the mainland market the most expensive in the Asia-Pacific region.

Risk Declaration
Greenspan last week joined central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan and Asia's wealthiest man Li Ka-shing in warning of a bubble on China's stock market. The index fell 0.5 percent the day after Greenspan's comment. It resumed its gains the next day, closing 1.7 percent higher.

The CSI 300, which tracks yuan-denominated A shares listed on China's two exchanges, has climbed 14 percent since May 6, when the central bank's Zhou said he was concerned about stock valuations. It also rose to a record after billionaire Li on May 17 said the market ``must be a bubble.''

The country's stock regulator last week ordered brokerages to make investors sign a declaration that they are aware of the risks when opening stock-trading accounts.

>hasn´t worked in germany and the rest of the world in 1999...helpless effort....maybe they should try/use a more drastical warning like this one..... :-)

>das hat bei uns und im rest der welt keinerlei auswirkungen gehabt...hilfloser versuch...evtl. sollten etwas drastische worte von seiten der offiziellen gewählt werden...... :-)


The pace of gains on the stock market has increased speculation that the government will take cooling measures.

``Some investors simply keep buying shares, since there were no crackdown measures by regulators,'' said Fan at Guotai Asset Management. .....

China Life Insurance Co., the nation's biggest insurer, gained 1.17 yuan, or 3 percent, to 40.20. Ping An Insurance (Group) Co., the second biggest, rose 2.56 yuan, or 4.1 percent, to 64.48.
Insurance companies have been approved in principal to invest in real estate in China, .... There are no policy restrictions regarding real estate investment by insurance companies, it said.

The Shanghai Composite Index, which tracks the bigger of China's stock exchanges, gained 2.2 percent to 4272.11. The Shenzhen Composite Index, which covers the smaller one, added 2.4 percent to 1264.05.





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Thursday, May 17, 2007

America´s fear of China / Economist

here is another good take on how heated the debate in congress in from stephen roach via tim http://tinyurl.com/2b3b5s . it will be interesting to see how this plays out and i think that almost every possible outcome will effect the us markets and $ assets negatively.

im link oben könnt ihr nachlesen wie ernst die debatte um china inzwischen im kongress geführt wird. es wird extrem spannend ein wie sich das ganze entwicklet. ich bin der meinung das fast jede änderung die usa und $ anlagen negativ beeinflussen wird.

UPDATE:

China Widens Trading Band, Lets Yuan Rise Faster Against Dollar

China widened the yuan's daily trading limit against the U.S. dollar, allowing faster gains in the currency to cool the economy and cut a record trade surplus that has strained ties with the U.S. and Europe.

``Widening the band is to further improve the yuan's mechanism, but it doesn't mean the yuan will fluctuate by a lot or appreciate by a large magnitude,'' the People's Bank of China said in a statement in Beijing. The yuan will be allowed to move as much as 0.5 percent either side of a daily fixing rate against the dollar, up from 0.3 percent, the central bank said.

UPDATE 2:

China Raises Rates for a Second Time This Year to Cool Growth

China raised interest rates for a second time this year to prevent a flood of cash from surging exports from fueling a stock market bubble and excessive investment in factories and real estate.

The one-year benchmark lending rate will be raised to 6.57 percent -- the highest in more than eight years -- from 6.39 percent, starting tomorrow, the People's Bank of China said today on its Web site. The one-year deposit rate will be increased to 3.06 percent from 2.79 percent.

UPDATE 3:

China's central bank said it will raise banks' reserve requirement ratio by half a percentage point, effective June 5.



China and US trade / Lost in translation

If China sharply revalued the yuan, as American politicians are demanding, it could actually hurt the United States and help China

CHINA is being cast as the villain once again. By holding its exchange rate artificially low, it is stealing jobs and causing the United States to run a huge trade deficit. Beijing must therefore be forced to revalue the yuan. These are the arguments behind an increasingly protectionist mood in Washington. Yet they are largely flawed. A stronger Chinese currency would not much reduce America's trade deficit. Indeed, the irony is that China, not America, has more to gain from setting the yuan free. Without a more flexible exchange rate, there is a growing risk that China's sizzling economy will boil over.

America's anger at China is clearly growing. In February it filed a complaint to the World Trade Organisation (WTO) against Chinese export subsidies. In late March the Department of Commerce announced tariffs of 10-20% on glossy paper imported from China, to offset the impact of alleged government subsidies. This reversed a 23-year-old policy of not imposing countervailing duties on a non-market economy. Then in early April the Bush administration filed two more complaints: one on Chinese pirating of DVDs and CDs, and the other over restrictions on the sale of foreign films and music in China.

Although by themselves these actions are trivial, together they point to an increasing appetite for tougher action against China. The Bush administration is under increasing pressure, particularly from Congress.....

Meanwhile, the target of all this hostility looms ever larger: China's trade surplus with America increased to $233 billion last year, accounting for almost 30% of America's total deficit. China's total current-account surplus reached an estimated $250 billion, or 9% of GDP, up from only 1% in 2001. Worse still, in the first four months of 2007, its trade surplus jumped by 88% compared with the same period in 2006.

The making of myths
China officially abandoned its decade-long policy of pegging the yuan to the dollar in July 2005. Since then it has risen by only 8% against the greenback. Because the dollar itself has weakened, the yuan's trade-weighted exchange rate has barely budged. In real trade-weighted terms it is about 10% cheaper than at the dollar's peak in 2002. As a result, it is not just the usual protectionist suspects that demand action, but many mainstream American economists are now calling on China to revalue by 20% or more. Yet the standard arguments for a revaluation are based partly on a series of myths.

The first myth is that there is overwhelming evidence that the yuan is grossly undervalued. China's large bilateral trade surplus with America proves nothing.

>really? here is a good response from Brad Setser http://tinyurl.com/2hnzez

It largely reflects Asia's changing supply chain. Much of what America buys from China today once came from Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. China now imports components from these countries, assembles them and exports the finished goods to America. Knock out these and America's bilateral deficit with China shrinks by more than half. Even so, China's overall current-account surplus is also huge.

The surge in its foreign-exchange reserves, to over $1.2 trillion, also suggests that the yuan is undervalued: without those massive purchases of dollars, the currency would have risen....

The devil to measure
Economists find it devilishly hard to define the “correct value” for a currency. On purchasing-power parity (PPP), the yuan is clearly undervalued against the dollar. Perhaps by as much as 50%. But PPP is not useful for determining the optimal exchange rate between two countries of such different levels of income. It is natural for average prices to be lower in poorer countries because wages are lower. As countries get richer and their productivity rises, their real exchange rates appreciate. And although the depreciation in the yuan's real trade-weighted value since 2002 looks perverse, this follows a real appreciation of 50% between 1994 and 2001 (see chart 1).



Myth number two is that the sharp increase in China's trade surplus is due to an explosion in cheap exports. Until 2004 China's surplus was relatively modest, but it soared over the next two years (see chart 2). Jonathan Anderson, chief Asia economist at UBS, points out that export growth actually slowed between 2004 and 2006 (see chart 3). The main reason for the bigger trade surplus was a sharp slowdown in the annual real growth rate in imports, from more than 30% in early 2004 to less than 15% last year.

The entire increase in China's trade surplus since 2004 has come from trade in heavy industrial materials and equipment. China used to import increasing amounts of steel, aluminium, chemicals and machinery, but import growth collapsed after 2004 when the government started to tighten policy, causing a sharp slowdown in construction, one of the biggest importers of machinery and materials. At the same time China continued to invest heavily in metals and equipment, creating substantial excess capacity, so import growth remained relatively weak last year. Mr Anderson argues that imports should recover as overcapacity is used up.

The third fallacy is that imports from China destroy jobs and harm the American economy. It is hard to see how China can be blamed for job losses when America's unemployment rate (4.5%) is close to its lowest for decades.

>that is the downside of sugger coated employment report..... http://tinyurl.com/37qwvp schadenfeude :-)

>da paßt natürlich die geschönte us erhebeung der arbeitsmarktsituation nicht so recht in die argumentationskette.... http://tinyurl.com/37qwvp schadenfreude sei erlaubt :-)

Trade with China may affect the composition of jobs in America, but it has little impact on total employment. It is true that some workers are harmed by trade with China, just as there are some losers from all international trade. But the American economy overall is better off, so in theory there is ample room to compensate any losers.

Trade with China helps, not harms the average American. Thanks to imports from China, prices are lower and real incomes higher. Commentators often refer to the “cheap” yuan as being an unfair subsidy for Chinese exporters. But it is a moot question who exactly is subsidising whom. Not only do cheap imports subsidise American consumers, but China's large purchases of Treasury bonds also hold down American interest rates, thereby subsidising home buyers.

Suppose that overnight the yuan rose by 30%, what would happen? American interest rates would rise as China needed to buy fewer Treasury securities and prices at Wal-Mart would increase. If consumer spending and imports then collapsed, this would certainly reduce America's trade deficit, but in a much more painful way than most Americans have in mind.

Wishful thinking
The biggest myth of all is that a revaluation of the yuan would greatly reduce America's trade deficit. The real cause of the deficit is that Americans spend too much and save too little. This means that the country has to import surplus savings from abroad by running a current-account deficit. If a stronger yuan did not cause Americans to save more, it would do little by itself to reduce the trade deficit.

Another reason why even a big rise in the yuan would do little to reduce America's deficit is that there is little overlap between American and Chinese production, so American goods cannot replace Chinese imports. Instead, other countries, such as Indonesia and Vietnam, would probably replace the Chinese. Shifting purchases to higher-cost producers amounts to imposing a tax on American consumers, says Stephen Roach, chief economist of Morgan Stanley.

Even where America and China do compete, as in electronics, the high import content of China's exports blunts the impact of exchange-rate movements on export prices, because a rise in the yuan reduces input costs. About half of China's exports consist of goods that have been assembled from imported components. And domestic wages and materials account for about 30% of the cost of those re-exports. Mr Anderson estimates that a 10% rise in the yuan would increase average export prices by only 3-5%.

If a yuan revaluation encouraged other Asian economies to follow suit, the impact on America's trade deficit would be larger, but still modest. If a 10% revaluation of the yuan were matched by all other Asian currencies, the dollar's trade-weighted index would fall by 4%. Yet, the 19% decline in the dollar's trade-weighted index since early 2002 has failed to trim the deficit. .......

Chinese whispers
Many of the arguments heard in America in favour of a big revaluation of the yuan are flawed or at least exaggerated. However, many of the arguments used in Beijing for why a revaluation would endanger China's economy are equally suspect. .......

By tying the yuan closely to the dollar, China has been forced to hold its interest rates lower than is prudent: higher rates would attract more “hot money” from abroad, putting upward pressure on the currency. The real rate of interest paid on bank deposits is negative and lending rates are far too low for such a fast-growing economy. Cheap money results in excessive bank lending and poor investment decisions, which could lead to an increase in non-performing loans. Excessively low interest rates are also fuelling stockmarket and property bubbles.
News that China's real GDP surged by a breathtaking 11.1% in the year to the first quarter and that consumer-price inflation had risen to 3.3% in March (it eased to 3% in April), stoked fears that the economy is out of control. But concerns about overheating in the usual sense of excess demand are exaggerated. China's widening current-account surplus and its strong investment imply excess supply. Excluding food, the inflation rate is only 0.9%. Instead, the real concern is that excess liquidity, as a result of the surge in foreign-exchange reserves and low interest rates, is flooding into shares (see article or http://tinyurl.com/3cr24c !, http://tinyurl.com/384fwu ! ). Households are withdrawing money from low-yielding bank accounts to bet on the stockmarket. China needs much higher interest rates to cool its asset markets. To regain control over its monetary policy China needs to let the yuan rise. [shanghai-index.png]
thanks to mish !

make sure you read his story about exhuberance in china http://tinyurl.com/34zww3

A revaluation could also help the government succeed in shifting the balance of growth away from investment and net exports towards consumption. A stronger exchange rate would boost consumers' purchasing power, allowing them to buy more foreign goods. Excess saving in China is as much to blame for global imbalances as inadequate saving in America.

....The good news is that the mix of growth is starting to become more balanced: over the past year, investment has slowed while retail sales have quickened, rising by 15.5% in the year to April. In other words, consumer spending is now growing faster than GDP.

Dragonomics, a Beijing-based research firm, estimates that consumption rose from 37% to 40% of China's nominal GDP growth in 2006 and is set to rise again this year.

>here is another chart that is including houisng and services in the consumption and voila....the number is much higher

>hier eine andere erhebung die sinnvllerweise wesentliche dinge wie services und die hauskomponente miteinbezieht und siehe da....ein esentlich anderes bild.

In the long run, stronger domestic consumption could trim China's trade surplus. The government can encourage this by spending more. Its spending on health care and education rose by an average of 50% last year and it is budgeted to rise by more than 60% this year—but from such low levels that it could take years to increase social spending by enough to encourage households to save a lot less. ...

Mirror image
This turns the whole debate about China's exchange-rate policy on its head. It is China that has the most to gain from allowing the yuan to rise. If the spat between America and China were to ignite protectionism or financial instability, it could endanger the whole world economy. All the more foolish, therefore, that economic relations are based on misperceptions on both sides. America needs to stop making China a scapegoat for the failures of American policy. Only if it gets its own economic house in order, by boosting domestic saving, will its “advice” to Beijing seem credible. Likewise, China has no right to criticise American policy when its own economy remains unbalanced.

America is right that China needs to revalue, but for the wrong reasons. And arguing that a revaluation helps America's economy makes it less likely that Beijing will act. Moreover, if George Bush foolishly slapped harsh trade sanctions on China, America's economy would be the biggest loser. Likewise, China is foolish to resist a more flexible exchange rate partly because it does not want to be seen as caving in to America's demands, when it is in its own interest. If the world's two leading engines of growth remain at loggerheads, everyone will pay the price.

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Thursday, April 05, 2007

China Raises Banks' Reserves Sixth Time in 10 Months

another baby step. but nevertheless a step. feels like they are doing something every 2 weeks now (see label)..... so far with no effects....

noch ein babyschritt. aber immerhin ein weiterer schritt in die richtige richtung.man bekommt das gefühl das die alle zwei wochen was unternehmen (siehe label).....bisher allerdings ohne jeglichen erfolg.....


China has ordered commercial banks to set aside more money as reserves for the sixth time in 10 months, in an aim to slow inflating prices and curb investments in the world's fastest-growing major economy.

The People's Bank of China raised the reserve ratio by another 0.5 percentage point to 10.5 percent, starting on April 16, the central bank said today in a statement on its Web site.

The central bank ``will continue to carry out prudent monetary policies, use multiple tools to strengthen liquidity controls to maintain liquidity at a moderate level and to prevent money supply and lending from growing too rapidly,'' according to today's statement.

Central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan is concerned that cash from China's record $177.5 billion trade surplus is stoking excess investment, raising the risk of accelerating inflation and boom-and-bust cycles in asset prices. The People's Bank of China last month raised interest rates for the first time in 2007, after two increases in 2006.

China's economy, the world's fourth largest, expanded at the fastest pace in 11 years in 2006. The previous increase in bank reserve ratios took effect on Feb. 25. The People's Bank lifted the benchmark one-year lending rate to 6.39 percent, the highest in almost eight years, from 6.12 percent on March 18.

The stock market has reached record highs this year, and also had the biggest drop in a decade,

underscoring government concerns about boom-and-bust cycles fueled by the cash from a trade gap that last year widened to $177.5 billion.

The trade surplus surged ninefold in February from a year earlier to $23.8 billion, the second-highest on record. Inflation accelerated to 2.7 percent from 2.2 percent in January. The central bank's target for the year is a rise in consumer prices of within 3 percent.



plus

BEIJING (XFN-ASIA) - The People's Bank of China drained 90 bln yuan from the banking system via the sale of three-year bonds and three-month bank bills in today's open market operations.

The bank said in a statement carried on its website that the yield for the 40 bln yuan worth of three-year central bank bonds sold was 3.28 pct, unchanged from the rate set at last Thursday's sale.

>can anybody see the 10% one day crash......all this action the last weeks and days didn´t stop the shanghai index from gaining over 18% in just a month since that "small" dip.......

>kann hier nich jemnad den 10% einbruch sehen......die ganzen maßnahmen der notenbanken scheinen zu verpuffen. der index hat seit seinem kleinen einbruch binnen eines monates mal eben satte 18% hinzugewonnen


It also sold 50 bln yuan worth of three-month central bank bills at a yield of 2.6648 pct, also unchanged from the rate at the previous sale.

thanks to floss

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Friday, January 05, 2007

China Raises Bank Reserve Requirement to Cool Lending

mhhhhh, too slow but they are moving in the right direction. 4th time in seven month with additional rate hikes etc. looks like the chinese get the picture that something is getting out of control. here is one example that shows the "over-investment" in the property sector.
mhhhh, immer noch zu langsam aber die richtung stimmt. das vierte mal in 7 monaten und dazu noch zinserhöhungen etc. sieht so aus als wenn es einigen unheimlich wird und die dinge drohen ausser kontrolle zu geraten. im link oben ein beispiel wie das im immobiliensekto aussieht.



Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- China told banks to set aside more money as reserves for the fourth time in seven months to prevent a rebound in lending and investment in the world's fastest- growing major economy. (hasn´t hurt stocks so far..../ die aktien hat es bisher nicht gestört....)


Banks must put aside 9.5 percent of deposits starting Jan. 15, up from 9 percent, the Beijing-based People's Bank of China said today on its Web site. The increase will cut the amount of money they have available to lend.

Central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan ordered today's move even after government curbs slowed economic growth to what he on Nov. 20 called a ``reasonable'' rate. China, which raised interest rates twice last year, wants to prevent cash generated by a record trade surplus from being channeled through bank lending into investment projects.

``This is not the end,'' said Huang Yiping, chief Asia economist at Citigroup Inc. in Hong Kong. ``We expect investment growth to rebound and the central bank will continue efforts to tighten liquidity.'' He expects the central bank to raise interest rates mid-year.

The size of the increase was the same as for the previous three, announced in June, July and November. The requirements were previously unchanged for more than two years.

..... The bank is concerned that wasteful factory expansion could leave China with idle production capacity and rising bad loans.

Trade Surplus
``Various measures taken by the central bank since 2006 have achieved some results in slowing down lending growth in the past few months,'' the People's Bank said today. ``However, there is a new increase of excessive liquidity in the banking system as a result of the continuing trade surplus and there is rising pressure for loans to increase.'' .....

Zhou is turning his focus to keeping export-driven money inflows from filling bank deposits. China's trade surplus may swell 65 percent to a record $168 billion this year, ``The trade surplus is pumping liquidity into China,'' said ...... ``The central bank needs to tighten, but raising interest rates will only increase pressure on the currency to appreciate, so this is a more suitable and effective way.'' (you really wonder why the fed hasn´t done the same..... there is a lot of room from close to zero reserves.....die fed hat die reserven auf nahe 0% zurückgefahren. man muß sich schon fragen warum sie in zeiten explosiven kreditwachstums auch in den usa in den letzten jahren nicht gegengesetuert hat... die antwort dürfte klar sein...)

....In its quarterly monetary policy report published in November, the central bank said rising savings deposits at China's banks could cause lending and investment to rebound. National savings amounted to 48 percent of gross domestic product last year and are ``still on a rising trend,''

Yuan Deposits
Yuan deposits at China's banks stood at 33.4 trillion yuan at the end of November, up 17.2 percent from a year earlier. The central bank estimates that every 0.5 percentage point increase in the reserve requirement reduces the amount available for lending by 150 billion yuan.

Forcing lenders to set aside more money also limits bad loans, which have vexed the nation's banking system in the past and accounted for 7.3 percent of lending at the end of September, ...

Zhou on Dec. 26 said the exchange rate will play a bigger role in making the economy less dependent on investment,........ (should be bad news for the $, when you look at the long term chart there is lots of room......sollten schlechte news für den $ sein, ein längerfristiger chart zeigt wieviel raum vorhanden ist......)



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Sunday, December 10, 2006

"China Consumer Prices Rise Most in 20 Months on Food "

"core" rate excluding the 30% foodportion of the basket sound like the fed. add to this that china controll the eneryprices and you wonder why anybody looks at the "inflation" numbers and the all the talk about low inflation etc.

kerninflation die satte 30% des warnekorbes (essen) ausklammert und zudem noch energiepreise die staatlich festgesetzt werden.... warum nimmt überhaupt einer diese niedrigen "inflationszahlen" ernst.

Dec. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Inflation in China, the world's fastest-growing major economy, accelerated more than expected in November as food costs increased at the quickest pace in almost two years.

Consumer prices rose 1.9 percent from a year earlier, the National Bureau of Statistics said today. That was the biggest gain in 20 months, ....topped all estimates among 21 economists surveyed .....

Chinese stocks and bonds rose as non-food inflation held at 1 percent (the chinese "core"?!/die chinesiche "kerninflation"?!), damping expectations that the central bank will respond by raising interest rates. Central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan last month said pressure to add to two lending rate increases since April has lessened. (what a rational..../was ne logik....)

``There's nothing major to worry about,'' ........ It's mostly driven by food prices.''

Food costs, which account for a third of the consumer price index, jumped 3.7 percent after climbing 2.2 percent in October, driven by a 4.7 percent surge in grain prices. Clothing prices gained 0.1 percent, the first increase since at least 1999. For the first 11 months, consumer prices rose 1.3 percent from the same period last year.

Food prices are ``volatile'' (sound like fedtalk...) and aren't likely to cause inflation to skyrocket, .....

Trade Surplus
The Shanghai and Shenzhen 300 Index rose 2.3 percent as of 1:01 p.m. local time. The yield on the 3 percent local-currency bond due in December 2008 fell 5 basis points to 2.95 percent

As China today reported its second-largest trade surplus ever, the central bank sold 120 billion yuan ($15.3 billion) of one-year bills to lenders in the biggest sale this year, draining cash from the financial system. The November surplus was $22.9 billion.
``Headline inflation is not much of a problem right now for ...... ``It is quite benign and mostly affected by agricultural products.''

Energy Prices
The central bank last month forecast consumer inflation will ease to 1.5 percent for 2006 from 1.8 percent in 2005.(good call with the 1,9% number reportet..../hat ja wunderbar hingehauen....)
Even so, it said inflation could quicken as China deregulates energy prices and boosts welfare spending. In addition, a possible rebound in investment could send raw material costs higher, the bank said. (how do you than come up with an low inflation estimate? could only be if the yuan wil strenghten significantly/ wie kann man da mit ner niedrigen inflation rechnen? geht wohl nur wenn der yuan weiter deutlich aufwertet.)

....China, which controls gains in the yuan, should allow faster currency appreciation to prevent export-driven money inflows from fanning inflation, .....(china is not alone with this kind of problem. watch the problems in the middle east oil exporters "prices are rising in the UAE at an annual rate of 7%, but independent estimates put it at 15%."

``By allowing the currency to appreciate, China could help lower the import cost of food,'' (and of course oil!!)

Interest Rates
Zhou raised interest rates in April and August and has ordered lenders to set aside more money as reserves three times this year. http://immobilienblasen.blogspot.com/2006/12/china-is-putting-on-breaks-bank-reserve.html

On Dec. 7, Zhou and his colleagues said they plan to achieve a ``stable'' monetary policy and ``adequate'' money supply growth next year and seek to balance international payments. M2 money supply rose 16.8 percent ( always a matter of perspective what "adequate" means. / alles ne frage der definition von "adequat" )

China's stocks had the biggest fall in almost five months on Dec. 8, after state media suggested the government may raise rates to cool the property market. ( sound familiar/ klingt vertraut)

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Thursday, November 16, 2006

Trade Deficit Has Roots Here, Not in China

it sounds to me that the "tough talk" from the us to china in forcing a revaluation in the yuan is only political talk. the us should be glad that the chinese are the main force that the rates in the us are so low(buying all kinds of very low yielding bonds). will be interesting to see how the us will blame china if they stop buying the bonds ......... until that date the us is the main beneficiary.

das ganze gerede von einem stärkeren yuan ist nichts mehr als politicshes kalkül. die schuld für arbeitsplatzverluste wird auf die chinesische wöhrung abgeschoben. so wird von den eigentlichen ursachen abgelenkt. die usa sollen froh sein das die chinesen haufenweise niedrigverzinsliche bonds erwerbenn und so die zinsen niedrig halten. bin gespannt was die usa sagne wenn tatsächlich eines tages die chinesen aufhören die bonds zu kaufen..... bis dahin sind die usa klar der profiteur dieser praktiken.


more on china and trade
http://immobilienblasen.blogspot.com/2006/08/wie-rational-ist-china-importierte.html#links

(Bloomberg) -- The harsh reality of America's trade woes is encompassed by two prominent numbers: September's $64.3 billion trade deficit and October's 4.4 percent unemployment rate.

......, the nation is consuming far more in goods and services than it produces.

The ideal resolution of this dilemma would be for the demand for U.S. exports to rise gradually while American households increase their savings and cut spending.

Odds don't favor such a neat combination happening. And new legislation penalizing China's trade policy isn't going to help much.

The U.S. trade deficit -- which is likely to approach $800 billion this year -- isn't primarily due to the refusal of China to let the value of its currency, the yuan, rise significantly relative to the dollar. .....


Spotlight on China
In general, the Democrats have blamed China and its pegged currency for much of the loss of manufacturing jobs, .....

Executives from General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG met on Nov. 14 with President George W. Bush to discuss their difficulties and to complain that the Japanese government was artificially depressing the value of the yen.

Most of the attention remains on China, and it's certain there will be attempts by the new Democratic majorities in the House and Senate to press for a faster revaluation of the yuan than the roughly 5 percent that has occurred since the peg to the dollar was loosened in July 2005.

It's not that simple to create more manufacturing jobs in the U.S. Factory employment has been falling for decades, primarily because of rapid growth in productivity in manufacturing, not because of globalization.

The Numbers
Over the past two decades
, Bureau of Labor Statistics figures show that manufacturing productivity doubled. As a result of that greater efficiency, U.S. factory output grew by two- thirds while the number of manufacturing jobs declined by almost one-fifth.

This year about $4.5 trillion worth of manufactured goods will be produced in the U.S. Based on trade figures for the first nine months of the year, the U.S. will import about $1.4 trillion worth of goods and export about $775 billion, making a total of $5.1 trillion available for the U.S. economy.

The $625 billion difference in goods imported and exported - - or 12 percent of the $5.1 trillion total -- is a measure of this year's likely net reliance on foreign goods production.
In other words, even with a trade deficit approaching 7 percent of gross domestic product, the U.S. reliance on imported goods isn't nearly large enough to account for the long-term decline in manufacturing employment. Instead, the culprits are the big gains in factory efficiency and the major shift in consumption toward services and away from goods.

Jobs Decline
Since there is no reason to expect those trends to change, there is no reason to expect the number of factory jobs to stop declining.
.....Making the yuan more expensive in dollar terms would only affect the cost of the value added to a manufactured product in China. In many instances, Chinese exports include a substantial share of value produced in other countries in the form of components which are imported into China, assembled and then exported. In that case, the only value added is the assembly.

Only if the country exporting the components also revalued its currency relative to the dollar, would the U.S. buyer's cost rise noticeably. Even that assumes that someone in the production chain does not accept a lower profit margin to keep the dollar price unchanged.

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